Tag: Dynamic Dunure

  • Fisherton Church for sale!

    The Church of Scotland have offered
    Fisherton Church for sale

    Starting price of £130,000

    This is an ideal opportunity for the community

    If, as Dynamic Dunure claim, the Kennedy Hall is no longer fit for purpose, an ideal replacement would be to purchase and convert Fisherton Church.

    For less than half the price quoted to remove Kennedy Hall from the village and turn it into holiday lets or flats, the village could have a facility with a large car park, ample tourist potential, and genuine links to the heritage of the people of Dunure and Fisherton.

    We wouldn’t need to spend £900,000 on consultants either.

    The justication for the massive £5,000,000 spend on the ‘Helm’ looks more and more like an excuse to build a wedding venue / tourist attraction rather than serve the needs of the village.

    Here are some of the details of the church:

    • Not a listed building – free from awkward planning conditions
    • Already connected to mains electricity and water services
    • Half an acre of car park
    • Adjacent to the school, offering great educational potential
    • Free of the acoustic problems of Kennedy Hall
    • On the main road to the Electric Brae and Culzean
    • Excellent views across the Firth of Clyde towards Arran

    The Brochure from the Church of Scotland highlights these advantages

    The property is not listed, and could be used, without the necessity of obtaining change of use consent, as a Creche, day nursery, day centre, educational establishment, museum or public library. It also has potential for a variety of other uses, such as retail, commercial or community uses, subject to obtaining the appropriate consents.


    Conversion to residential accommodation might also be possible, again subject to the usual consents.

    Here is the brochure:

    Given the low starting price, the location, and the huge potential, it’s likely that Fisherton Church will be sold quickly.

    Driving past today (Friday 12th December) I noticed many cars in the church car park. It turns out that there is a great deal of interest in the church as a property: to guage the seriousness of those viewing, I saw at least three Range Rovers, a Jaguar, and a motorhome along with a constant stream of other cars parked up.

    It would be a great shame to see such an important part of the heritage of
    Dunure and Fisherton turned into a private house, or holiday lets.

    That would really be a betrayal of our heritage.

  • Dunure Community Council Minutes 16th September 2025

  • Dunure Community Council Minutes August 2025

  • Dunure Community Council Minutes 17th June 2025

  • One Unrealistic Assumption of Business Pointer’s report

    Business Pointer get the bad news out of the way first.

    For the ‘Helm’ to make a profit there needs to be at least 300 customers per week from Dunure itself, added to the revenue from visitors to the centre.

    Let’s tease that out.

    Firstly, 300 per week is 43 per day. Over an 8 hour day that’s a customer every 11 minutes or so.

    That’s one person walking down Kennedy Drive to the ‘Helm’ every 11 minutes, past their neighbour’s house – the neighbour I guess they’re having a cuppa with.

    The 300 is expected to be every day of the year, summer and winter. It’s more likely that folks will walk down in summer than winter – twice as likely? So in summer that’s one person every 51/2 minutes walking down Kennedy Drive, past their neighbour’s house.

    But it’s more than that – because the ‘Helm’ is likely to be booked at weekends for weddings and events. So we’re more likely looking at 300 visitors per week over 5 days – that’s 60 per day. In summertime we can double the numbers, halve them in wintertime.

    I’ve done a wee spreadsheet so you can see for yourself.

    Is that what you expect to see? A constant stream of Dunure residents walking down Kennedy Drive and braving the dangerous crossing into the park?

    Well, let’s see what’s on offer for them.

    Coffee from a coffee machine. Costing £2.00, so not top quality.

    Sorry, this is just not going to fly.

    Let me quote from the report:

    [If] as the basis for this business plan, we estimate 36,295 visitors to the Helm in year 1, spending (say) £2.00 each, then catering revenue would be £72,590

    (Page 5)

    If you do the sums, then the ‘business plan’ is expecting is £31,200 per year from residents, £41,392 from visitors.

    Was that what you were expecting? If the £31,200 doesn’t materialise, what happens to the jobs the project promises?

    Take into account that some of our friends and neighbours are elderly, or disabled, or children, and there’s even less of a chance of the numbers stacking up.

    Why didn’t Dynamic Dunure pick up on this?
    Why didn’t they ask for a new draft report?

  • Architects set to make more than expected

    There’s a large underestimate of the architects’ fees in the ‘business plan’.

    Costs are given to RIBA 3 for the development phase of the ‘Helm’ project, yet they are only give to RIBA 2 for the delivery phase (page 19).

    There’s an important difference between RIBA 2 and RIBA 3.

    RIBA is the Royal Institute of British Architects.

    RIBA Stage 2 is the concept design phase of planning a building.

    RIBA Stage 3 is the ‘Spatial Coordination’ stage, a critical phase where the project’s theoretical aspects transition into concrete realities. Where the plugs go and so forth.

    Stage 3 demands a high level of expertise and coordination among architects, engineers, and other specialist consultants, embodying the essence of practical and detailed architectural planning.

    In other words, Stage 3 plans can be expected to cost the same as Stage 2 again, possibly much more than that.

    Stage 2 costs £1,670,000 – how much will it cost to go to Stage 3?

    Likewise the costs for the car park and access – Stage 2 costs £490,000 – how much extra for Stage 3?

    Similarly, costs for the landscaping: £350,000 to Stage 2.

    The fees for ‘the above’ are given as £222,009: how much more will they rise to bring the project up to RIBA Stage 3?

    Will it cost the same again – more? – much more? – we just don’t know.

    What we do know is that there is a built-in cost overrun to this project.

  • Why were Business Pointer chosen for the Business Plan?


    Business Pointer haven’t been active as a company since 2013 according to their website, and their telephone number is out of use.

    According to Companies House, there is no business entity called Business Pointer registered as a company.

    So, more questions arise.

    • Who recommended Business Pointer?
    • Which other consultant firms were considered?
    • Why was Business Pointer better than the others?
    • How much was paid for this report?

  • Draft Business Plan for the ‘Helm’

    This is the September 2024 final draft of the Business Plan.

    There are serious questions to ask about the details in the plan and the company who prepared it.

    The company recommended in the report as an example for the ‘Helm’ to follow is now in liquidation with debts of more than £4 million.

  • Dunure Community Council Minutes 21st May 2025